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		<title>Comment on On the Art of Misinforming - Vermonters for a &#8220;Just&#8221; Peace by Ian Thal</title>
		<link>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/08/14/on-the-art-of-misinforming-vermonters-for-a-just-peace/#comment-446</link>
		<author>Ian Thal</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, 

Thanks again for directing people towards my writings.

The cartoon you pulled up is a perfect example of the point I've made &lt;a href="http://ianthal.blogspot.com/2007/09/independence-paintings-in-burlington_08.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;many times before&lt;/a&gt;.  In attempting to show a symmetry between the Jews and the Palestinians, the cartoonist (and indirectly the publishers of the cartoon) have to lie. These lies do not serve the genuine interests of the Palestinian people.

While there are mountains of evidence for the murdered Jews, there is no evidence for "six million Palestinians ethnically cleansed, dispossessed, mudered, and humiliated. " The official U.N. refugee count is about 711,000 and their refugee status is generally agreed upon to be caused primarily by the Arab invasion of Israel, and not out of an ethnic cleansing campaign, and only about 40,000 were deported by Israel.

There are real statistics and real facts that people who are truly sympathetic with the Palestinians could and should cite, but people who cite lies care more about creating anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic sentiment than actually improving the plight of the Palestinians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, </p>
<p>Thanks again for directing people towards my writings.</p>
<p>The cartoon you pulled up is a perfect example of the point I&#8217;ve made <a href="http://ianthal.blogspot.com/2007/09/independence-paintings-in-burlington_08.html" rel="nofollow">many times before</a>.  In attempting to show a symmetry between the Jews and the Palestinians, the cartoonist (and indirectly the publishers of the cartoon) have to lie. These lies do not serve the genuine interests of the Palestinian people.</p>
<p>While there are mountains of evidence for the murdered Jews, there is no evidence for &#8220;six million Palestinians ethnically cleansed, dispossessed, mudered, and humiliated. &#8221; The official U.N. refugee count is about 711,000 and their refugee status is generally agreed upon to be caused primarily by the Arab invasion of Israel, and not out of an ethnic cleansing campaign, and only about 40,000 were deported by Israel.</p>
<p>There are real statistics and real facts that people who are truly sympathetic with the Palestinians could and should cite, but people who cite lies care more about creating anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic sentiment than actually improving the plight of the Palestinians.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Art of Social Conciousness?  I believe not. by Ian Thal</title>
		<link>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/08/08/the-art-of-social-conciousness-i-believe-not/#comment-437</link>
		<author>Ian Thal</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/08/08/the-art-of-social-conciousness-i-believe-not/#comment-437</guid>
		<description>Peter was long one of my artistic influences from the time I spent performing with him, but I lost my respect for him as a human being over precisely this issue.  His obsession with misrepresenting the Israeli-Palestinian conflict seems to have a lot to do with his childhood under the Reich and his refusal to deal with what did happen in Silesia where he was born and raised.

Sadly he is avoiding the history that other German artists of his generation (Gunter Grass, Heiner Müller, for instance) chose to confront in their work.  Someone who is promoting what is essentially right-wing revisionist history of World War II (which I also discuss &lt;a href="http://gregcookland.com/journal/2008/02/ian-thal-on-peter-schumann.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://ianthal.blogspot.com/2008/02/notes-on-nejar-interview-with-peter.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) shouldn't be such an icon of the American peace movement.

I'll definitely be following the story as it develops.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter was long one of my artistic influences from the time I spent performing with him, but I lost my respect for him as a human being over precisely this issue.  His obsession with misrepresenting the Israeli-Palestinian conflict seems to have a lot to do with his childhood under the Reich and his refusal to deal with what did happen in Silesia where he was born and raised.</p>
<p>Sadly he is avoiding the history that other German artists of his generation (Gunter Grass, Heiner Müller, for instance) chose to confront in their work.  Someone who is promoting what is essentially right-wing revisionist history of World War II (which I also discuss <a href="http://gregcookland.com/journal/2008/02/ian-thal-on-peter-schumann.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://ianthal.blogspot.com/2008/02/notes-on-nejar-interview-with-peter.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>) shouldn&#8217;t be such an icon of the American peace movement.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll definitely be following the story as it develops.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Art of Social Conciousness?  I believe not. by Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/08/08/the-art-of-social-conciousness-i-believe-not/#comment-431</link>
		<author>Mike</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, 
     Thanks for your comment. I have looked at what you have written, and you clearly have more in depth writing and clarity on this subject than I do in my very short post.  I'll direct anyone who writes to me, if any do, to your previous posts on the subject, and in fact may put links to these in further posts I may make.
Sadly, VJP is hosting another fairly extensive program of art and political speakers at this year's Art Hop in September.  Peter has a new exhibit which I am told will be about "Walls" generally (Berlin Wall, Great Wall of China, Jerusalem Wall (his name for the security barrier I believe).    

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian,<br />
     Thanks for your comment. I have looked at what you have written, and you clearly have more in depth writing and clarity on this subject than I do in my very short post.  I&#8217;ll direct anyone who writes to me, if any do, to your previous posts on the subject, and in fact may put links to these in further posts I may make.<br />
Sadly, VJP is hosting another fairly extensive program of art and political speakers at this year&#8217;s Art Hop in September.  Peter has a new exhibit which I am told will be about &#8220;Walls&#8221; generally (Berlin Wall, Great Wall of China, Jerusalem Wall (his name for the security barrier I believe).    </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Art of Social Conciousness?  I believe not. by Ian Thal</title>
		<link>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/08/08/the-art-of-social-conciousness-i-believe-not/#comment-429</link>
		<author>Ian Thal</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/08/08/the-art-of-social-conciousness-i-believe-not/#comment-429</guid>
		<description>Dear Michael,

I wrote a great deal about the controversy over last year's Peter Schumann exhibit on my own blog, which had followed my own decision to &lt;a href="http://ianthal.blogspot.com/2007/04/breaking-with-bread-and-puppet.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;dissociate myself from both Schumann and Bread and Puppet&lt;/a&gt; for precisely the reasons you cited.

In fact, I discussed VTJP's website in depth &lt;a href="http://ianthal.blogspot.com/2007/09/independence-paintings-in-burlington_08.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

Most importantly, you are absolutely right, this is art that lies; a point I made &lt;a href="http://ianthal.blogspot.com/2007/09/independence-paintings-in-burlington_11.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Michael,</p>
<p>I wrote a great deal about the controversy over last year&#8217;s Peter Schumann exhibit on my own blog, which had followed my own decision to <a href="http://ianthal.blogspot.com/2007/04/breaking-with-bread-and-puppet.html" rel="nofollow">dissociate myself from both Schumann and Bread and Puppet</a> for precisely the reasons you cited.</p>
<p>In fact, I discussed VTJP&#8217;s website in depth <a href="http://ianthal.blogspot.com/2007/09/independence-paintings-in-burlington_08.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>Most importantly, you are absolutely right, this is art that lies; a point I made <a href="http://ianthal.blogspot.com/2007/09/independence-paintings-in-burlington_11.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eyes of an Expert Portrait Artist, Coffee with Willem by Peggi Habets</title>
		<link>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/06/18/eyes-of-an-expert-portrait-artist-coffee-with-willem/#comment-343</link>
		<author>Peggi Habets</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/06/18/eyes-of-an-expert-portrait-artist-coffee-with-willem/#comment-343</guid>
		<description>Willem,
Sounds like you got some very good advice there. It's always so nice to get feedback from an artist whom you respect. Thanks for an interesting post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Willem,<br />
Sounds like you got some very good advice there. It&#8217;s always so nice to get feedback from an artist whom you respect. Thanks for an interesting post.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Artichokes, COSTCO, Obesity by Willem</title>
		<link>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/06/18/artichokes-costco-obesity/#comment-342</link>
		<author>Willem</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/06/18/artichokes-costco-obesity/#comment-342</guid>
		<description>It's just so hard to beat buying stuff at 60% of small-quantity retail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just so hard to beat buying stuff at 60% of small-quantity retail.</p>
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		<title>Comment on North Hero Class in Watercolor, June 9, and Portrait Shape Problems by Naomi</title>
		<link>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/06/05/north-hero-class-in-watercolor-june-9-and-portrait-shape-problems/#comment-338</link>
		<author>Naomi</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/06/05/north-hero-class-in-watercolor-june-9-and-portrait-shape-problems/#comment-338</guid>
		<description>Mom looks beautiful, as always. I like the way the light falls on her face in this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mom looks beautiful, as always. I like the way the light falls on her face in this one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Finished?  Tad&#8217;s critique (kind words) by Willem Leenstra</title>
		<link>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/05/18/finished-tads-critique-kind-words/#comment-337</link>
		<author>Willem Leenstra</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/05/18/finished-tads-critique-kind-words/#comment-337</guid>
		<description>I agree with Thad.  The way I see it, if you just give Rebecca's nose a tiny bit of length towards her mouth, it will be (1) more like I see her, and (2) not have so much space between nose and mouth (relative to the other proportions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Thad.  The way I see it, if you just give Rebecca&#8217;s nose a tiny bit of length towards her mouth, it will be (1) more like I see her, and (2) not have so much space between nose and mouth (relative to the other proportions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Light! by Willem Leenstra</title>
		<link>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/05/24/light/#comment-336</link>
		<author>Willem Leenstra</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/05/24/light/#comment-336</guid>
		<description>What a lovely picture of Marissa.  And although she was posed in a very reflective mood, I think I remember that she has always had her wonderful, upbeat personality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a lovely picture of Marissa.  And although she was posed in a very reflective mood, I think I remember that she has always had her wonderful, upbeat personality.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gold Ring Scam, Birds at Lunch, Wine in the Pews by Willem Leenstra</title>
		<link>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/03/13/gold-ring-scam-birds-at-lunch-wine-in-the-pews/#comment-163</link>
		<author>Willem Leenstra</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjstrauss.com/2008/03/13/gold-ring-scam-birds-at-lunch-wine-in-the-pews/#comment-163</guid>
		<description>Have been enjoying your posts.  Hope your flight back goes smoothly.  Looking forward to seeing you next week.  Hi to Rebecca.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have been enjoying your posts.  Hope your flight back goes smoothly.  Looking forward to seeing you next week.  Hi to Rebecca.</p>
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